tomorrow. >> brian: danica patrick will be here tomorrow. >> steve: it will be a great show. >> brian: we still have five seconds. >> elisabeth: get your guitars ready. >> brian: you want to just stare monday morning. the countdown to the shutdown. 15 hours ago until the lights go out in washington. the housework overnight late saturday to keep things going, but the senate took the teakened off. how is that going to work for you. where are we going to go today? good morning, everybody at home. i'm martha maccallum. the house have you cans went down to the steps of the senate and slammed them for so little

action. >> the senate doors are lorked'. harry reid says it's inevitable the government will shut down. if the senate doesn't act it may be inevitable. but we are here to say why are they waiting? why aren't those doors open? >> the american people did indeed re-elect barack obama. but they also re-elected a majority house of representatives and we are here doing our job. call harry reid and tell him to get the senate back. we'll sit down at the table and fix the problem. bill: at 2:00 the senate does come back to work. steven hayes leading our coverage. good morning to you. do you get a sense one side is more united than the other? >> i think democrats are more united on this specific immediate question of a

government shutdown and how the continuing resolution is likely to be passed. you are not hearing or seeing leaks from many congressional democrats challenging the strategy of leadership. we have seen republican senators taking shots at ted cruz and mike lee. you are having some of the same divisions in the house. clearly democrats are more united. bill: did the president call john boehner or did he just call the president of iran? >> the president is eager to have a conversation with the president of iran. he called john boehner earlier and said we won't be negotiating on the debt ceiling, but he has not done top of reach out to congressional republicans to try to start negotiations. they seem content to let republicans do what they are doing. bill: the latest house proposal would eliminate the medical

device tax. there was a lot of support for that on the senate side. and they want to delay the individual mandate. you pick and choose, it should be delayed for all americans. are there enough red state democrats to take that at this late hour or not. >> i don't think at this late hour, probably not. we have seen no indication from harry reid that he plans on including any of the resolutions included by republicans. they may have an opportunity if they were able to shift this debate to the debt ceiling, include some of those obama-care proposals and have a serious subject and substantive discussion. bill: the house may also today

vote to take away the subsidies under obama-care for members of the administration and members of congress and their leading staff members. is that a strong hand to play? >> we are now at the point where people aren't listening to their individual proposals as they are concerned about the broader shutdown. whatever the accurate depiction of how these negotiations have happened. you have got the mainstream media ready to blame the republicans for the shutdown. i think they need to shift this to the debt ceiling debate. have a debate about the medical device tax where there is democratic support and use that to try to divide democrats who are ready unanimous.

>> reporter: a lot of things we just talked about will still be hanging around to mid-october. martha? martha: what will happen when the government shuts down? here is some of what will be affected. all the national parks will be closed along with washington's smithsonian complex and the national zoo. if you have a passport, the office will be closed. no new passports will be issued. no fha loans will be available. social security check and medicare checks will go out on time. and active duty military will stay on the job. there is a chance their paychecks may be delayed. so what does it mean for the average person? will you feel this as a taxpayer? stuart varney is the host of varney and company.

stu, what have we got here? >> not much. wake up tomorrow morning. if the federal government is not shut down this will not help the average person. 300 million people will hardly feel it at all. 800,000 people will be furloughed temporarily. the impact on the vast majority of people, virtually nothing as of tomorrow morning if we shut down tonight. march are you you think the big date comes with the debt ceiling issue. >> yes, that is far more important. october 17 we lose the authority to borrow more money. midnight tonight we lost the authority to spend more money. borrowing it is far more important. in advance of that deadline what you are seeing is a tee klein in the stock market this morning. how the market closes this afternoon don't know, but you are seeing a decline in the

stock market as of this morning. but the debt crunch is far more important. if we go over past that deadline, then the impact on everyday people will probably be much more pronounced. martha: stuart, thank you very much. >> last type we were down this road mid 199. at the time republican leaders demand the white house propose a 7-year balanced budget plan that used the cbo's check forecast. remember this day? >> unfortunately republican leaders in washington have put ideology ahead of common sense and shared values in their pursuit after puget plan. i know the loss of government service will cost disruption in the lives of millions of americans. we'll do our best to minimize

the hardships. but there is after all the simple solution to the problem. all congress has to do is to pass a straight-forward bill to let government perform its duties and pay its debts. bill: many suggest that was the turning point. that brought gingrich and clinton together and the welfare reform that would come in the years after. martha: if it happens again a new poll shows host americans will blame the republicans. 4 per of people say they would blame the gop if the government closes shop. only 36 per se they would blame barack obama, but others are not sure. the majority thought they are all acting like a bunch of kid in washington. bill: how worried are you about

the government shutdown possibility tonight. it's 9:00 in the morning, right? no one is talking. i would say pretty much this is going to happen at midnight tonight. i have a prediction. the sun will come up tomorrow. in 1995 this thing went down and all the national parks closed. and it was december. people found something else to do with their time and their lives and things were reopened and evening was pretty much smooth. i would expect the same thing to happen now. martha: we are on the cusp of starting this new healthcare program, one the largest government programs launched in many, many years at the same time the government is shutting down. i think it's an interesting irony as we watch both of these unfold. bill: you have got the last day of september now. balk care october 1.

all this will come to a head real soon. 9 minutes past. we are just getting rolling. we have a big show today. martha: the obama-care rollout jets gets underway tomorrow. a new poll shows more americans are getting nervous and worried about the bill. bill: a plane exploding into a ball of flames after crashing into an airport hangar. authorities have no idea who was on board. martha: texas congressman with some particularly harsh word. he joins us live straight ahead. >> friday the senate led by harry reid makes it clear, well, we are going to take the lazy break until monday at 2:00. the clock is running out. when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals:

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martha: a small plane crashed into a storage hangar in santa monica, california. the plane took off from a resort town in idaho. but at this time they don't know how many were on board or how many were in the hangar. the cause of the crash is under investigation. >> the senator aren't here. harry reid is off somewhere. is all the evidence you need to know that they want to shut down the government. >> i feel like a brother where art thou, only it many the senate. they were two preoccupied to work yesterday. they are too busy to come back today. we are here to work. and the senate has been absent for two full days.

>> we are less than 32 hours away from a government shutdown. and where is the senate? they are not here. bill: that was yesterday afternoon on the steps of the u.s. senate. the government shutdown looking more and more likely about it hour. the deadline is midnight tonight. starting 1:00 a.m. 37 hours will have passed since the funding of the house bill and 37 hours since the senate has even convened. where are we? are we shutting down? >> the problem goes back to january of 2011 when democrats were whispering all over capitol hill. if we can republicans to refuse to capitulate they will get blamed and we can get the majority back in the house.

that's bent conventional wisdom since the majority was lost in 2010. in the twinge of 2011 we were trying to get minimal reforms. we got to midnight on a friday and we caved completely just so the press wouldn't say the republicans shut it down. we made one offer, they refused to even negotiate. we are bidding against ourselves. at least for heavens sake. you have giving big business a one-year extension, why not give individual america the same extension. why russo prejudiced for business and against the lower working class. why not help all americans. they didn't want to be here this weekend because they wanted to push this to a shutdown thinking they win politically. bill: you said last time you

caved in meaning republicans. did that suggest this time you were not caving in? you were not giving in which means the government shuts down? >> we heard from so many of our constituents across our country that lost insurance, had it go up more than they can afford. lost their doctors. all those broken promises. then they see the president willing to negotiate with russians, willing to negotiate with iranians, but refusing to:negotiate with other americans. i hope the americans are getting picture clearly here. bill: what is the strongest hand you believe you hold now? >> when you stand up for truth and stand up for what's right and the individual american across the country, i think eventually no matter how much the lame stream fights it eventually the truth comes out and that what's we are kowngt on. bill: you are pushing for a delay for the individual

mandate. you say look at all the waivers to businesses and subsidies for members of congress and their staff. you believe it' only right to delay all this law for an additional year. can you win at this late point to do that? >> we shouldn't get anything more than any american person has. we are the servants. we are not the masters. and that needs to be fixed. with regard to the subsidy. but the best thing to do is put it on hold for a year. let me point out you heard me prit size your speaker plenty of times. 2 1/2 years ago i began pushing if there is a shutdown the military in harm's way should never have to worry about getting their check. the military will get paid. i don't care whose name is on it. just bring the bill to the floor. i'm hoping the senate will have

a little sympathy for our military, even though they want to play political games. rue * this doesn't necessarily deal with the shutdown. you were quoted saying to harry reid. the debt ceiling is the law unless you want that shoved back in your face then you need to be flexible and help the american people. what do you mean shoved back in your face. >> i know i had a "huffington post" reporter say what does that mean. i know "huffington post" reporters have trouble understanding metaphors. they say it's the law get over it. if you are saying obama-care is the law, well the debt ceiling is the law, you need to get over that, too. we are going to bring that right back to them, i'm speaking

metaphorically. the deficit ceiling is what it is. unless you want that brought back in your face then you need to be more flexible on obama-care. bill: what is your sense about how united republicans are? are there any breaks in the ranks? any cracks in that armor? >> when you have seen on the floor the entire republican party vote together in the house, that's pretty encouraging. there are always disagreements. there are disagreements in my family when you love each other you can have disagreements. if everybody agrees, all but one is unnecessary. but we are united in trying to help americans. bill: lougohmert, thank you. martha: the shutdown is looming and we have the obama-care exchanges set to open for business in 24 hours.

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he's a wolf in sheep's clothe hog is still pursuing nuclear bomb. more on this following the conversation the world found out about together. martha: in the meantime, a huge announcement setting a time and date when pope john paul ii will become a saint. when is all this going to happen? >> pope francis announcing on april 27, 2014, it's called divine mercy tuesday. pope john paul ii as well as pope john paul th xxii. >> to think these two towering

figures of the 20th century will be canonized at the same time ... >> vatican insiders say pope john paul ii, one of the most beloved helping end communist rule in polled. john xxiii was suppose to be a caretaker pope. but he instigated the second vatican council. he updated many of the church's positions. something benedict is doing now.

>> pope john paul was saying i don't want to wait. i'm the pope. who is going to defy me on this. there was a shortage of hand going up. >> john paul ii took part in that 1963 gathering. he was a priest, not the pope at the time. people were calling for him to be a saint right after his death. watch carefully here. those guys are on a boat, martha. they motorrorred through three different waterspouts. how about that for a day on the

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in the system and that adds to the general unease among americans. look at the recent poll. this is from kaiser-nbc. they have been following a lot of developments in the health care sentiment over the years. more than half of the people surveyed say they're worried what this new law will bring to their lives. when asked if they understood it, 49% said they were really confused actually about the whole thing. kirsten powers joins me, columnist for "the daily beast", fox news contributor and tony saying president of talk radio news service and fox news contributor. good morning to both of you. boy, what a monday this is. you have the government about to shut down at the same time we're launching the largest benefit that the country has seen since medicare and social security, kirsten? >> yeah. yeah, it's interesting times for sure. i think this poll is very interesting poll if you read through and look at a lot of the different answers. one of the things that really

struck me is that americans are confused about the law bey wereu actually tried to speak seek out any information bit, 64% said they hadn't. so there's a little bit of, you know, maybe could be a little more curiosity and they're also, i think 48% said they never heard of the health care exchanges. i mean i don't even know how that is possible you could be weighing in on whether you like obamacare or not when you have never heard of the exchanges. martha: yeah. i mean, i don't know, tony, kind of goes back to nancy pelosi saying wait until you find out what is in it and perhaps a lot of people, i think people in some ways are in denial. they don't want to go there they want to believe if they like their health care the way it is and like their doctor nothing is going to change but we're starting to see people get pushed off the plans like retirees at some big american companies so far. >> sure. i mean the plan is totally flawed that's why a big argument is there to be made for delaying

it. look, even if you support obamacare, at very least like max baucus the man who wrote the bill, chairman of the finance committee in the senate, you understand the implementation is train wreck. you heard kirsten acknowledge most americans or at least half of americans don't understand the exchanges yet. that in of itself gives me cause to say, maybe there is something good in obamacare, i don't think so but some people certainly do but they still don't know, the american people don't know what is in for for them and now we have to fully implement it to realize the benefits is ridiculous. if you look at exchanges, 10 states, largest insurance companies are opting out of the exchanges. people will naturally have to lose their existing coverage if forced on to exchanges by their companies and they don't have the insurance they had previously. they will go to somebody else. clearly the flaws of obamacare are aware to everybody. martha: raises a lot of questions, kirsten. when you go you through what the

details with the navigators. they were not able to hire nearly number about navigators, helpers at exchanges to help people understand it. they have a whole team in herndon, virginia, at computer center because they're concerned about getting up online rollout of this, why not given these things, why not delay it a little bit until you feel more comfortable, until you get the word out to more people, until you feel it is more smoother? what is the big rush? >> first of all, information is available. 64% of the people haven't tried to find information, the onus is on people a little bit to try to find out about it, right? do we not have any responsibility here, a. b, obamacare does not push anybody off any insurance plans the exchanges are for people uninsured. if the employer decides to that, that is on the employer. obamacare does not mandate -- martha: i have to jump in there there is list of 300 companies that have said that because of

obamacare they are changing the way that they do health care. companies like ibm around time warner who have been pushed off their plans. the reason they cited was obamacare. so i don't know how you can say that. >> is it possible -- i think you asked me a question. is it possible companies are saying this and it isn't because of obamacare? what is it in obamacare that makings you push your employees off insurance? >> because you don't have to pay for insurance for part-time employees. >> that is their choice. not something that obamacare does. >> look, obamacare in of itself had this whole goal of increasing access to health care and lowering costs. we know 2 doesn't do both. government accounting office says in 10 years we'll have still 30 million uninsured americans. actuaries at medicare and medicaid we'll spend more in health care spending in 10 years. obviously we're not reducing costs. companies are incentivized to

kick people off the health plans because you have exchanges. currently in america -- >> the, changes are good. >> who says exchanges are good? what is better the private insurance option which most wealthy people in america who don't care about obamacare -- or exchanges that don't have real competition, kirsten. >> here is the thing, first of all talk about the cbo. cbo already has been proven wrong. >> i said the gao. government accounting office. >> you also said cbo and republican -- >> actuaries. no i didn't. >> cbo turns out all their projections how expensive obamacare were going to be are actually wrong. in the marketplace it looks like prices will be lower because there is competition. martha: that is comparison what they originally thought the increase would be. they're saying a little bit lower than they thought increase in current plans would be. i mean, it remains to be seen. we've got a few hours left before this starts to kick in. kirsten, maybe you're right.

maybe everybody should wait until it happens. >> why shouldn't congress live under it, martha? martha: congress is pushing off a couple big provisions. >> and exempt themselves from it. martha: that's true. thank you guys. see you next time. bill: breaking news. we reported on this a month ago when cable news network cnn was drafting a documentary on the a life of hillary clinton. moments ago cnn canceled that highly-anticipated documentary. the director is charles ferguson. he was quoted as saying when i approached people for interviews i discovered nobody, nobody was interested in helping me make this film. not democrats, not republicans. certainly nobody who worked for the clintons wants access to clintons or deems of a position in the hillary clinton administration. the decision to cancel is victory for the clintons and money machines both political parties have become. whatever the case, scratch the film. it ain't happening. >> they were much-criticized for it. it would be a documentary that

heralded the wonderful life and accomplishments of hillary clinton. then they got a lot of pushback on that. bill: reince priebus on several times with the rnc. he wasn't happy. martha: they were pulling the debates. bill: it is done. martha: so much for that. so it is crunch time right now on capitol hill. so who is going to take the blame for all of this? mr. bill o'reilly will be here in "america's newsroom" live. he is coming up next. we'll ask him about the budget crisis and health care that will roll out the next 24 hours and his really interesting new book, "killing jesus." bill: this flooding, serious damage. this is a lot of water and a lot of rain even for an american town that is used to a lot of rain. >> this is crazy weather. >> that is third time this has happened in the last six weeks. >> it scares the hell out of me, to be honest with you. that is pretty intimidating.

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bill: so then a lot on the table. obamacare, government shutdown. a lot of confusion frankly. here to talk about all that we are pleased to welcome back the author of a new book, out today about the last days of jesus christ, called, "killing jesus." bill o'reilly, host of "the o'reilly factor" with us in studio. how are you doing. >> i'm fine, hemmer. bill: congratulations. >> thank you. bill: it is a good book. i will talk about that in a moment. you know the drill here. government shutdown, what is going to happen? >> i don't know what will happen because this is why people hate politics because they are all, they being both parties are looking out for themselves and not the country. here is what should happen. extend funding for a month. they talk it over. it's a mess. obamacare is a mess. supposed to be implemented tomorrow. when you have a mess let's come back a little bit so what i would do is be say, this is fair compromise, anybody who wants to sign up for exchanges beginning tomorrow you can. you sign up. here's your plan. you sign up. if you doesn't want to, you

don't have to. we'll give you a year to smooth things out. optional. bill: seems like rational thing. i think house republicans would agree with you. >> they would. bill: democrats in the senate definitely do not. they want to get this thing going. >> right. because they want to play politics. if somebody kidnaps harry reid, ties him to a tree in nevada, way out in the desert, don't hurt him, don't hurt him, tie him up so they can't hear him, the other democrats would say, okay, look we've got some problems. let's iron the problems out. give people a year and then we'll revisit it next year. till will be strong and if it's a success people want it. if people can save money and get good doctor care they will sign up, right? bill: let me ask you something. do you understand how this law works? >> yes. bill: i do. i know you're a smart man. you read articles every day and i'm still confused. >> that's is the problem you read articles. i actually talked to the doctors. here is how it works. bill: so what is going to happen? you. >> sign up for an exchange, an

insurance exchange. you have four levels of care depending on your income. here is where it falls apart. you don't have to verify income. you can lie. number one, fraud city. but anyway, you're supposed to sign up f you make a certain amount of money, you pay a certain amount and insurance agent, private insurance company picks it up. the gnat doesn't want any part of it, so think bailed out. more chaos. if you go below certain amount of salary, 75,000, the government gives you money to buy the plan, whatever plan you -- bill: but there are subsidies built into this thing. deductibles, bill. >> if you want the best plan and you make 60,000 the government will fill in up to a certain amount of money for you. so what it is, a huge entitlement for poor people because they get free health care. government picks up 100%. for people making 75 grand, they get a little bit after supplement. that is what it is, hemmer. bill: i don't even think it is that simple. >> it is. bill: but that to the side for

now. this book will be a huge success. i think when people start reading it, i think the one people that will surprise them, is the amount of roman history you provide during that time, that era. why did you think that was so important to understand this. >> you read the book, right? >> yes i did. >> okay. you have to contrast the message of jesus to what was happening in jesus's world to know why the people rallied around jesus. thousands of people were following him around. why in why? it is the miracle thing. we get into that. it is also, here are the romance and jewish san hedrin stealing from the folks, taking from them. the folks didn't have anything but tack taxing them up to here. it was a corrupt society. here was jesus saying, don't do that. actually getting angry about it, turning over tables in the temple. bill: he was a threat. >> he was a subversive. once rome figured out that this guy could be a problem with our money supply, because it went,

they stole from the folks. went to jewish san hedrin took their cut. went to tiberius from rome took their cut. they said, maybe we shouldn't pay all the tax they have to get rid of him. bill: saw you on "60 minutes" and "the today show" and come teegs on "fox & friends" too. you're taking heat a lot of different sides because the style which you wrote this book, jesus christ, walking on the mount of olives, there is dialogue you insert into the book. jesus was hungry. he went looking for a figure on a tree. explain how the style of the dialogue you were able to arrive at because none of that is documented anywhere. >> it is oral history. and it is documented in places. look, let me just give you one simple example. john the apostle john. he was there he was there are to the whole deal, the whole ride. he wrote john the gospel on the

greek island of patmos. it is documented. he wrote it as an elderly man. that is eyewitness account. john didn't embellish very much. luke and matthew did but not john. when you read john's gospel he saw it happen. so you take what john writes and compare it to what the roman records were, the jewish records were, even islam, their historians wrote about jesus. you put all the research to see how it stacks up against the oral history of the gospels, presto you have -- bill: romance were brutal too. >> unbelievable. bill: you point out that many i was. a crucifix was type of intimidation. >> cross on cover of the book sends a message this is history book. that is the cross jesus was crucified on. not the small t you see the in the church. that stem was permanent. they put the top. lowered it down, you see the

ropes that send as message we're not fooling around this book. this is what happened to jesus. if you want to know you read the book. if you don't want to know, fine with me. bill: good luck with it. you don't need my luck. you will do terrific with this as we saw with lincoln and kennedy. >> thank you, bill. bill: niece to sigh you. martha. martha: thanks, bill. the legal odyssey of amanda knox is not over yet. the retrial of the woman called foxy, xnoxy is underway today. >> i just want, my family is the most important thing to me right now. i want to be be with them. thank you for being there for me [cheers and applause]

bill: it started as a nice river tour on the river thames.

it turned into a dangerous rescue as a duck boat burst into flames. the duck boats go on land and in the water. the 30 people on board forced to dive in the water after the tour boat engine caught fire sending the duck and its belongings down to the riverbed. martha: not good. >> it was scary. a lost smoke inhalation. we all jumped into the river. i lost my bag and passport and everything to get home to australia. >> obviously the engine caught on fire and we saw smoke and fire. my husband and i said i think we better jump into the river which we did. we're australian. we can swim. bill: yeah you can. other boats came to save everybody. two people suffered smoke inhalation. the company, no more tours now. they want to figure out what sparked this, how it started. >> first time we heard about a duck boat incident. let's get you to the extreme weather happening right now.

rain, wind, snow slamming the northwest and it is not even the 1st of october causing major flooding in washington state, oregon, and northern california as well. now those areas are bracing for more. meteorologist maria molina is live in our fox extreme weather center with the latest on that. hey, maria. >> good morning, martha. that's right, this storm system a little bit unusual. so it is very early in the season to this see kind after storm. we're talking significant rain, snow and even wind there was a wind gust recorded in parts of washington up to 85 miles per hour. this type of storm should be happening during the winter months. we're making up significant rainfall across parts of washington and oregon. locally six inches of rain has fallen in some these areas loafer over the weaken and early this morning. guess what? that rain is still coming down out here. higher elevations where you have colder air in place we have snow coming down across part of the washington cascades. we could pick up to 20 inches of snow along the higher

elevations. because there is cold air associated with the storm system snow levels will be duping down to pack levels. some of those passes anyone doing driving out here we could have issues. please be safe on the roadways. we have winter storm warnings in enext in the washington cascades. farther inland in the northern rockies you will start to see snowfall, generally speaking four to eight inches. winter weather advisories are in effect in parts of montana, idaho and expect snow as far as east as parts of wyoming. that comes as another snowstorm brought two feet of snow into into in the northern rockies. starting early. martha: i think it will be a long winter for those folks. bill: come on, maria. no, no, no. our summer just arrived here in the northeast this past week. martha: beautiful. i hate to say it. bill: 14 hours and counting, folks. uncle sam closes shop at midnight. will there be a deal before then? brit hume will analyze. he is on deck live next.

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martha: fox news alert on what has become a test of wills in our nation's capitol. the battle over obamacare could shut down the government if lawmakers can't get on the same page by midnight tonight. that is how we start a, welcome to a brand new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. good morning. we are now 14 hours from that deadline for a federal budget after a weekend which we saw, well the house passed another plan, while the senate spent their time away from the office. they did not meet but there was at least one senator making his case in republican rand paul. he seems to think the solution to this shutdown mess is rather simple. here he is. >> you had a conference committee, equal number of republicans and democrats and you hashed out your differences. why don't we have conference committee on this? you could appoint one today and meet tomorrow and hash out the differences. that is the way it is supposed to work. martha: that may be the way it

is supposed to work. not the way it is working right now. joining me fox news senior political analyst brit hume. good morning to you. >> good morning, martha. martha: a, does rand paul have a point there and b, where is the president in all this. >> rand paul has a point but a little late to take a conference committee. those things take days and we're dealing with hours. its is possible and neither side is willing to do that, certainly harry reid has given no indication that he wants to sit down and thrash out a compromise with what the house sent to him. the president is waiting and watching. there is not a lot he can do. none of his official duties are engaged. that will occur when and if something is sent to him to either sign or veto. that is where we are. there is nothing, martha, right now as we look at this that is pending or about to happen that would avert a shutdown. that is why the feeling here in washington over the weekend that a shutdown is most likely to occur. martha: up one of the stories

that came out over the weekend, harry reid encouraged the president, don't do it, don't bring four leaders together to work out a negotiation at white house and suggestion is the president was think about doing just that and harry reid convinced him not to. suggested if you do i may not even show up. >> well, i think the feeling is that, i think harry reid in the democrats in the senate believe they're holding height cards. they look back to 1959 and '96 when the government shut down twice. republicans got the blame and people were surprisingly aivers to even a temporary partial shutdown which is what occurred although one of them lasted several weeks. they're looking at that and thinking, look, we have a winning hand here. all we've got to do is sit tight and if the house doesn't give in and which do have a shutdown, they will take the brunt of it. so don't do anything. that's where we are. martha: i think we have a cover

of "the daily news" back in 1995, calling newt gingrich a crybaby. that is what republican bees are trying to avoid. a live shot of things getting underway in the house this morning. what do you think the house could eke out if anything? they're going for the medical device issue and one year delay which is unlikely at this point, brit. >> seems unlikely accepted by the senate and therefore unlikely accepted by the president. what the house could do is pass a clean bill, stripped of any of these controversial provisions and, for three days, or four days, that would allow, a time for further negotiations although there really, i should say negotiation, because you can't say further if there haven't been any. there really haven't been any. martha: no. >> that would give extra time to temporarily avoid a shutdown and perhaps they could come to some agreement here. martha: yeah. maybe they could bring rand

paul's idea of having conferences which you hear a lost senators, particularly very angry, that never happens anymore, brit? >> no, it doesn't happen the way it used to. regular order of that kind happens on some measures but not on many. the two sides are dug in and far apart. these are the deepist divisions i've seen in 40 years in washington. martha: thank you, brit. >> thank you, mart that. >> that's a statement, 40 years? shortly after the house passed its plan on sunday, john boehner said, quote, the senate must move quickly. if the senate stalls until monday afternoon, which will happen, it would be act of breathtaking arrogance by senate and senate leadership. the senate says the plan is nothing new. >> the house position which is basically the same one they sent us last time is going to be rejected again. we're going to face the prospect of the government shutting down come midnight monday night, tuesday morning. and that's sad.

martha: they're dug in as brit hume says. on the other side you have utah senator mike lee urging his fellow republicans in the house to stand their ground and warning obamacare is not ready for prime time in his opinion. watch. >> the law is not ready to be implemented. every day we're learning about somebody else losing a job, having their benefits slashed or having their hours or their wages cut and we also know that the president himself has acknowledged that the law's not ready. he is making exceptions for people, for unions, for big business and other special interests. if it's not ready for some, it is not ready for every one and which should delay it for everyone. bill: what is the effect of a shut down? doug holtz-eakin, former director of the cbo. president of american action forum. good to have you here on our program. what is the effect, not the political impact but the economic impact? >> well, it will be a mixed bag quite frankly. there will be some things that stop. certainly we won't see the national parks. we won't see passports.

we won't see the sort of meat and potatoes of government function. issuing new loans at fha, small business loans but a lot does go on. 60% of the workers continue to work. social security checks go out. meat still gets inspected. so one would expect this to be a small hiccup for the economy as a whole unless it really drags on for a protracted period. bill: hang on one moment here. the speaker is on the house of the floor now. is he talking about the government shutdown? he is. let's listen. >> sent it to the united states senate that would delay obamacare for one year and would eliminate permanently the medical device tax that is costing us 10 of thousands of jobs being shipped overseas. the senate decided not to work yesterday. well, my goodness. if there is such an emergency, where are they? it is time for the senate to listen to the american people, just like the house is listening to the american people and pass a one year delay of obamacare and a permanent repeal of the

medical device tax. bill: clock ticks in lower right hand corner, doug holtz-eakin. how disruptive is a shutdown? does it cost us much money or not? >> it costs government some money. always more expensive to interrupt operations. you have to devote time, energy, cash and in end shutting down and starting up. like moving your house. much easier to stay where you are. move something expensive and unpacking is expensive as well and that's what we're faced with but in the big picture i think people conflate two different things. government shutdowns have not historically had a big impact. it will be a hiccup, not more. threat of default that is a large economic impact. that is is a very different impact from shutting down the government. bill: we face that in mid-october. in 1995 what were you doing? >> in 1959 i was in syracuse

university in the economics department watching with interest. bill: you were watching with interest and so was i. i was in atlanta and told the sky would fall and it didn't. what do which expect? >> i don't expect much. best guess we'll have a shutdown. it will be a couple of days, in the end remember, everyone gets paid a little bit later. the government spend money it would spend anyway a little bit later. for the economy as a whole, couple days versus here and there doesn't matter much. bill: i asked you about the economic impact. on the politics, what do you find, where is the public shutting down the government versus delaying obamacare? >> certainly the public is firmly in the camp we should delay obamacare. if you look at polls, obamacare remains unpopular. looking at key voters like independents, they favor a one-year delay. they favor using things like funding bill to get that one-year delay. they don't favor shutting the government. and so you can't give the public everything they want unless you

sigh the democrats compromise and there has been no sign of that so far. bill: douglas holtz-eakin, thank you, sir. >> thank you. bill: watching the clock with us. former director of the cbo. nine minutes past the hour. martha: doesn't get you anywhere when you look at that way. shut the government down for a few days, cut government spending. reminds americans of sequestration and americans are asking what is going on in washington and why can't they get together and why we would allow this to happen that has no impact on the big picture. like he said, the debt ceiling is the next opportunity for folks to get a little movement on all of this. tell us what you think at home. we appreciate your tweets. we've been looking at them all morning morning morning in. ing very fired up about that. send them to @marthamaccallum and @billhemmer. bill: we don't know which way it will go. we don't know where we'll be tomorrow on all this. but we do know the health care exchanges for obamacare go into

effect tomorrow. what do you need to know. we have doctors, members of congress. they will tell us coming up. martha: a christian pastor look locked up in iran because of his christian faith. his wife said the latest headline concerning saeed abedini is the most encouraging thing yet. she is live here in "america's newsroom" next. plus this. bill: that is just unbelieva huh? you're asking yourself, what in the world is that? this is a fishing trip takeing a dramatic turn by the guy you saw in the sunglasses. >> there is another one starting right here. look at the debris cloud. it hasn't formed yet. you can see the debris cloud where the boat is on the horizon. literally five waterspouts right here.

bill: this is absolutely horrific attack on a group of college students on a college in

nigeria. police say islamic extremists enter ad school and gunned down male students as they slept in dorm rooms. terrorists likely targeted the school because it promotes, quote, western education. martha: we now know that after months of pleading with congress and the white house, the case of pastor saeed abedini was indeed discussed in the historic phone call that took place between president obama and leader of iran. the family of the american pastor who is locked up over his christian faith in iran says this is by far the most encouraging news that they have heard. nagmeh abedini is pastor abedini's wife. jordan sekulow, center of american law and justice and representing the abedinis in this case. welcome back to "america's newsroom." nice to have you on a day where there is development that you wanted so much.

what is your understanding that the president and the leader of iran actually talked about with regard to your husband? >> well, thank you, martha. for having us. my understanding was that sigh-eyed's case was -- saeed's case was brought up and how important it is for american people to see he is released. that is most encouraging news and what i worked all year in trying to get to see and i'm hopeful about his release. martha: when was the last time you had any communication with your husband, nagmeh? >> last time iranian government allowed any contact was january 9th of earlier this year. martha: what have you heard about his condition lately? >> you know, his family visits him every monday so they just had a visit, i just had a talk with his father and they visited him and he was doing well. he was hopeful. he heard about the news and he was hopeful he would be out soon. martha: i bet they are. jordan, what can you tell us about the nature of what the president said? what do we know about how strong the president was on this issue? >> very strong, i mean, martha,

we've been critical, over the last, nine months, that we've been public with this story, on fox news. let me first thank, i don't think we would be here today talking about this positive development without fox news because you nice have been here with us throughout the whole process. there are some now in the media, finally starting to cover because the president has engaged. but we wouldn't have 600,000 people on a petition, 135,000 letters going to the president, and people wouldn't have on updated throughout the good and bad without fox news. so we now know for the first time, martha, things are coming together. we're working with the state department. we're working with the white house. the president picked the perfect opportunity to speak out, but you know, it took, senators like lindsey graham, writeing a letter last week. took ted cruz kneeling in prayer at the white house which he did after the 21-hour speech. it took a lot of work and we're not done yet that is the key.

martha: let's look at the letter lindsey graham wrote. we're interested in this fox story on fox news when an american citizen is being held in iran based on his faith this is something everybody should be interested in him. here is lindsay gram. i was disappointed you failed to use the united nation has general assembly to press the case of pastor abedini. not only extremist iranian government need to hear your voice on behalf of the pastor, but also do tyrants around the world who would persecute individuals for their practice of chrissie anty. we've seen that continuing to grow as a worldwide problem here. nagmeh, i know, i would imagine that you feel very much that this is obviously it is not over until it is over. there is lot of hurdles still to come. >> it is not over until he is on american soil. martha: jordan, any hope of any sort of timeline or what you think you should expect next? >> you know never want to set timelines dealing with iran but

i will say this which is fairly bold, these next two weeks very critical, a very critical for the next two weeks. everyone that worked so hard to the get's the president attention, maybe sure we build on that. we passed the one-year mark and accomplished the goal finally getting our top leader in his first phone call with the president of iran since the revolution to bring up saeed abedini. we got there that is the time frame we're looking at. we're planning, martha if we have to trips to in october with the european parliament. trips in november. we're planning long term as well. we're lawyers. we plan for everything. martha: nobody would be happier than the two little children we see in the pictures of your family. please keep us posted next two weeks. if you hear anything, nagmeh, thank you for your courage in all this. and jordan, thank you for your persistence. see you again. >> thank you, mart that. >> most optimistic in time i heard her since she come on. martha: must be hard to be. it is not over until it is over and you got your arms around

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martha: some flim seeking fishermen, thrill seeking fibber

man capturing a incredible scene. national weather service says chasing these waterspouts is more dangerous than it looks. they are common off of florida's gulf coast. still experts suggest if you see one, don't grab your camera. maybe make a phone call to the authorities instead. bill: looks ominous. martha: it sure does. bill: okay, folks, here we go, now the obama-care health care exchanges are right now set to go live tomorrow, the first day of october. and the white house launching a full-court press with health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius giveing a major address today, october 1, circledded there. peter doocy live in washington with the main part of her pitch today. peter, good morning. >> good morning, bill. she said shutdown or no shutdown at midnight the new marketplaces for the affordable care act will be open for business tomorrow. >> frankly, i don't know. it looks more likely today than it did yesterday. but i don't know.

but, i can tell you, on the operational front we will be continuing to move forward on the affordability care act. >> reporter: the administration is makeing a big-time push on social media as well, with the hashtag, get covered. we saw a post by president obama's senior advisor valerie jarrett with the hashtag with link to funnyordie.com video where jennifer hudson says obamacare is easy fix for all kinds of problems. >> my company's health care, it doesn't cover mammograms. >> aca covers preventative care for women's health. that's it. go find your scan. >> reporter: that video also tries to direct online traffic to the website where americans can enroll in the new marketplaces tomorrow. healthcare.gov. bill: what are republicans doing to counter the administration? >> they're continuing to make the case, bill, affordable care act, lead to fewer and fewer

full-time jobs for american citizens. >> all we're seeing so far is higher premiums and fewer jobs. that is the result, net effect so far of obamacare. that is why there is so much interest among the american people to get it repealed. >> reporter: senator thune says there may be enough pressure on democrats and republicans for their constituents to at least delay the implementation of the affordable care act. >> we'll watch it from here. peter doocy from washington. martha. martha: in a moment we'll speak to a couple of lawmakers who happen to be medical doctors what they think this will mean for you. bill: israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has a message for the president. he is at the white house today. how will the recent telephone conversation with iran's leader factor into this conversation?

martha: big day at the white house today. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu arriving at the hour with a high-stakes meeting with president obama. the issue with iran and phone call that took place between the president and leader of that

country. foreign affairs correspondent wendell goler joins us with the latest from the white house lawn. netanyahu is skeptical of iran's new offer to negotiate over the nuclear weapons program, right? >> reporter: you're right, martha. he calls the moderate face of iran a smiley campaign and netanyahu does not trust it. president obama, iranian president hassan rouhani speak on the phone. those are the highest level talks between u.s. and iran in three decades. they did not have a face-to-face meeting in new york when both were there for the u.n. general assembly. prime minister netanyahu warned the u.s. not to be naive about iran's promises to open the nuclear program to international inspection and that will be his message to the u.n. general assembly as well. >> translator: i will tell the truth in the face of sweet talk and onslaught of smiles. one must tell the facts and the truth. telling. truth today is vital for security and peace of the world

and of course it is vital for security of the state of israel. >> reporter: netanyahu will address the u.n. general assembly later this week. the israeli delegation walked out when rouhani addressed the body last week. martha: netanyahu drew the bomb with red line across it about how imminent he thought was the progress on that front. what was the white house response to what netanyahu had to say? >> reporter: president and all his senior advisors will judge the iranians on their actions not their promises though secretary of state kerry says if iran can prove the nuclear program is peaceful relations with this country can change dramatically for better and kerry said they could change fast as control. netanyahu is bringing new intelligence iran in an effort to for the u.s. to maintain the tough international sanctions that really battered iranian economy. neither leader is likely to

comment, neither netanyahu and president obama in the picture taking session. those talks take place in 45 minutes and they have a working lunch after. martha: we'll see if things change after they share the intelligence. wendell goler thank thank you vy much from the white house. bill: fox news alert. some significant deadlines on the talk in the next 24 hours. 13 hours in the president's health care law, will go into effect. the exchanges designed to help people find insurance, he officially open for enrollment but they might be confusing to folks more so than helpful. the following guests were doctors before members of congress. louisiana republican charles boustany, and tennessee republican phil roe. dry marc siegel, member of fox news medical a-team. gentlemen, welcome to all three of you. >> good morning. bill: to members of congress first, this is what jay carney said last night, or last week. the affordable care act will deliver on its promise to make health insurance more affordable

and accessible for americans. to the congressman from louisiana, is he right? >> we have to say we're seeing hikes of premiums. my concern the way this is structured with the exchanges you're looking at a restricted type of exchange, limiting choice but also running up premiums because of the types of benefit packages that are being offered in this. so i think costs are going to go up for almost everybody. i do believe we'll see some restriction in choice in the exchanges. and then finally, these exchanges are not ready for prime time. bill: to congressman poe or row, excuse me. do you agree with it? >> i do. bill, we've seen this 20 years ago in tennessee when we rolled out our health care reform called tenncare. it was not ready for prime time. unfortunately with what will happen tomorrow will be a lot of unfulfilled promises and a lot of things that don't happen on time. let me just say this the premise of lowering costs and increasing

access, i think both dr. boustany and myself agree with that. will this actually do that and the answer is no. i got an email from a friend of mine in north carolina whose premiums went two 200 something dollars a month to 500 something dollars a month. why is this? we didn't do a job about explaining preexisting conditions for the uninsured in the health care debate. for those with private insurance this doesn't affect you much. you as fox news or people working in eastern chemical. bill: unless your company drops your coverage. >> unless your company drops the coverage. bill: there was a law, sorry, a bill was passed by the house late saturday night on the screen for our viewers here, one year delay of the law, repeal medical device tax. 2.3%. birth control mandate opt out. i don't know congressman boustany, you're up against the clock right now. it does not appear that you will be, granted those measures past late on saturday night.

>> right. bill: what both of you gentlemen are explaining to us now is the fault in the law and if it is the case over the next year and beyond, americans will see that. and if they do see the fault in the law, what is the ultimate effect of that? >> bill, one of the things i'm concerned about is the requirement in these exchanges for data to be shared amongst agencies both at the federal, state level, insurance companies. we're very concerned about the integrity of this data first off, and secondly i don't know of any instance where government agencies have been able to cooperate and coordinate their efforts very well. we know that the irs is in the mix of this i'm the chairman of the subcommittee on oversight on ways and means. we're looking at the irs. we know there are major problems there. i have really deep concerns about where this is going. bill: i want to bring in the arbiter of all this. marc siegel, you've been sitting there listen and are they right

or not and on which point? >> first, first thing i want to say, and they're too humble to say this, dr. boustany and dr. roe, congressman, have been in practice more than 60 years. myself 20 years. we're talking 80 years of clinical experience. we're the people they should have gone to when they started figuring out how to give more access to patients and access to patients that don't have it. what they're saying premiums are going to go up and access is going to go down. another reason access is going to go down, and i agree with both of them, the kind of insurance on state exchanges has very limited options. the networks are shrinking. you won't be able to get tote doctors or hospitals you want. that is a serious problem. why you're struggling to figure out if you can pay for the premium, while you're waiting for government subsidy or entitlement, on top of that you may not get care you're used to. bill: i'm hearing from all three of you this is a bad law. siegel, will people come around

to that? do you stand by that now? or are these, as president says, hiccups and pumps along the road that will be smoothed out in time? >> i think that people already know this, bill. you say people coming around to it. poll after poll have shown that americans are not happen with this law. in the doctor's office they figure this out. they will find the doctor like one of us, saying this law isn't working for me. i'm not getting paid enough. i have too much paperwork. i can't afford to take care of you anymore. all of that is happening because the type of insurance started in 1990s, it is being extended all the bad things. bill: congressman roe, you get the last word on this. okay, go ahead. >> let me personalize this, for you, bill. in my own hometown, my doctor, my personal doctor quit and he quit why? he and his partner quit. he is a urologist. 40% of our urologists in our hometown quit and retired because of all the complications, electronic health

record and all of the issues they have to do to deal with this. and you've see this as dr. siegel said, there is no question in my mind access is going to go down. we've lost jobs. we had a hospital close in southwest virginia and major medical center in ten see is laying off 1,000 people. that has never happened. 1,000 healthcare workers, great jobs. so it is a train wreck. we need to pause this for a year and let us work out some of the details so we can better implement this. bill: thanks to all of you, phil roe, charles boustany, marc siegel, appreciate your input. martha? martha: you heard president obama said himself he would not negotiate on the budget. no talks at all with republicans where that was concerned. a lot of people asking the question about why he would be will to talk to the president of iran? it is not sitting well with some of the critics. we'll talk about that coming up. bill: a couple is proving no wedding is not complete without a little dose of danger out there. how about flying down the aisle?

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bill: meet a couple in north carolina who have a story to tell. ditching traditional walk down the aisle. get a shot on television. choosing a zip line for the big entrance at the wedding over the weekend. all in good fun, right? martha: why not? are you kidding? >> i have no idea. >> because it is awesome and we wanted to have, we wanted to make it the most fun for our

guests. martha: there's that. we had a band at our wedding to provide fun for the guests. >> there's that. the couple says they got the idea after looking into the hotels amenities. when they found out about it -- martha: there is a zip line there. why not take advantage of it. bill: a beautiful sunset. martha: you said try something dangerous. getting married dangerous enough, right? bill: true story. martha: turns out well in most cases. growing controversy over a pair of decisions that were made by the president at the white house with his fourth phone call with the president of iran while refusing on the other hand to talk or negotiate with the gop. so that raised a lot of people saying, hmmm, is that a interesting comparison? one top republican says iran is the not only one that has gotten the president's ear lately. he adds people supposed to be fixing the budget mess are not even on that list. >> you just listen to the president, talk to the president of iran, talk to putin, but

won't sit here and talk to the representatives of the american people that would like to come through and deal with this problem. martha: fowler joins me, radio talk show host and michael graham, talk show host with boston radio. gentlemen, welcome. richard, jump right in hire. what is your reaction to what kevin mccarthy had to say there. >> there is distinction. the president has done negotiating with the house of representatives. we've seen no progress. brought nothing to the table to compromise. all they want to repeal obamacare and defund obamacare, no questions asked. whereas the conversation with iran is a more so of historic conversation, first-of-its-kind in the past 30 years. about creating global stability and iran is bringing something to the table. martha: that is not exactly true because the house changed defund request. and now the request is to repeal the tax on medical devices and have a one year delay for individuals as well as companies. that is where their negotiation is at this point, right,

michael. >> this is hilarious. always, president obama says i will not negotiate. harry reid says there is no conversation. media say, see it is republicans who won't make a deal. it is crazy. the republicans will back up into a deal. something along the lines of you get 99% of what you want, mr. president. all you give up a special set-asides for congress that normal people can't give up and give up the medical device tax killing us here in massachusetts as well as in minnesota. when the president gets that 99% you will have people like richard saying, see the republicans won't compromise. martha: why is that, richard. >> wait a second here, martha. i think the truth of the matter what we've seen from this republican congress they will do anything in their power to ultimately defund obamacare. they voted for it 41 times to defund it. now all these other measures are a way to break down the law. let's understand, every democrat since roosevelt talked about how we need to reform our health care system. president obama finally got the job done. now republicans will do everything in their power to dismantle it. martha: michael? >> i understand that empty p.m.,

doesn't, for example, want to negotiate with a guy like rouhani in iran. he is not very good guy. hezbollah guy. bragged about lying in previous negotiations on nukes. you know what? rouhani is the head of iran. i have a message for people like richard, stop losing congressional elections. you had keep losing congressional elections two cycles in a roy. americans elect republicans in house. democracy for you to dial. it is intransigent i refuse to deal because i don't like an election. >> i glad you brought that up and having a conversation about elections because if i remember correctly, 2012 election was about obamacare. republican guy, mitt romney said let's repeal obamacare and president obama said we'll implement obamacare. american people overwhelmingly keep president in us office and eight democrat senators reelect them in office and obamacare in place. republican even though they lost

the election will do everything in their power to dismantle the law, checked through congress, checked through the supreme court around now they will dismantle it. martha: michael, what do you say about that, too late you had your chance? >> when republicans win house that election doesn't count, but president obama, who had his own form of obamacare, romney care. that is how democracy works. are you prepared to shut down the entire government over congressional set aside rewards your friend and over the medical device tax that cripples businesses in massachusetts? if that is how bad you want it, mr. president you can have it. you can't say the republicans have given up 99% aren't negotiating. the president said he will not negotiate. he is the non-negotiator. martha: i mean the president has admitted, richard, that the is bill is not perfect. the medical device tax issue has been very bipartisan in terms of the opposition to that medical device tax. why not say, you know what? i'm leader of this country. i'm willing to accept the fact that there are some things in this bill that are not perfect.

so let's get together of the? what would be so terrible about that? would you lose so much face over that? >> well, no, i think you're right. i think this president had said this bill is not perfect. no bill is going to be perfect. i think if you ask george w. bush about the prescription drug bill he would also say that bill wasn't perfect. what he is saying is, let's implement the bill and work on fixing it as we go along in the process. what we've seen from the other side of the aisle they will do everything in their power to dismantle it, even though the benefits of bill are already starting to be seen. first of all three million young people are back on parents health care insurance. people with preexisting conditions can get coverage. now time for exchanges to go into place which allows for millions of americans to finally get coverage and have a chance to go to the doctor. republicans all they want to do is repeal. they have instituted no type of replacement. it continues to be a political game that they want to play with the american people. the only individuals that want to shut down the government is the republican party. harry reid has pass ad continuing resolution that will allow for the government to stay

funded. once again john boehner went back and their caucus could not get that bill passed. >> we'll have to leave it there, gentlemen. thank you very much. richard, michael, see you next time. >> thank you. >> thank you. martha: so there's that. bill: there's that. 10:48. 13 to the hour. martha: go back to work on senate side 2:00 after lunch. bill: stay tuned. her legal troubles are not over. live for the retrial, the american woman who made headlines as foxy knoxy. it is not over. why. martha: this water seems to have no bounds. why the recent downpour led to that mess. we'll be right back.

>> the house, the senate and white house on a collision course right now on capitol hill, just a few hours away from a potential government shutdown. the ball is in the senate's

court but not for long. oh, and did we mention the obama health care exchanges? they open tomorrow. bret baier and joe trippi join us to discuss. plus former secretary of homeland security michael chertoff joins us on a disturbing national security leak. some are calling it much worse than the spilled nsa secrets. we introduce you to our brand new studio launching today. it is a beaut. see you in seven minutes for "happening now." martha: and we have this fox extreme weather out of austin, texas, where some wild weekend flooding left a few cars almost completely underwater. rescue crews had to pull at least six people out of their vehicles over the weekend. one man in his 50s rescued from his roof. heavy rains and storms kept crews busy saturday night and all day sunday with seven inches of rainfalling in those areas. some wicked weather out there now.

thankfully no injuries were reported. bill: so the retrial of the american exchange student amanda knox getting underway in italy without the star defendant. knox was found guilty four years ago of murdering her british roommate. she served four years in jail best conviction was overturned two years ago. amy kellogg is live in london watching this. why is this court case now reopened, amy? >> reporter: well, bill, italy's supreme court cited inconsistencies in logic on the part of the original appeals court. so they have brought this case back to court two years after amanda knox and her then boyfriend were acquitted in this case. amanda knox has shade she described her four years in prison as quote, an innocent person's worst nightmare and it is all starting up again although she has not gone back to italy for the trial. the original conviction of her housemate, meredith kercher in italy was largely overturned

because of problems with dna evidence collected sloppily or late in some cases. today's hear something focusing on which evidence to revisit. s sollecito east lawyer is asking no to waste time on evidence already corrupted in court. the defense team wants the crime scene tested for traces of bleach. that theoretically to knock down the continuous accusations on the part of prosecution that knox and sewly cito tried to keep up the crime scene. bill: she is not there. she is home in washington state. what if she is found guilty? >> reporter: she told the italian paper, bill, that she was persistently portrayed in the press as unscrupulous liar and sex fiend and murdereress. she doesn't think it is safe. rafael solecito plans to attend

some hearings later this month, and continue ages of the appeal. they could appeal that too if they're convicted again. italy could request extradition. experts are saying it is unlikely the u.s. would hand over amanda knox anyway, bill. bill: thanks, amy kellogg watching the story out of italy and london today. martha? martha: just hours to go before a government shutdown and house republicans are standing their ground accusing the senate of deliberately running out the clock. much more coverage on all of this straight ahead.

bill: quick programing note on two shows today. we premier two new shows. join alisyn camerota, 1:00 in america's news headquarters. check us out. followed by the real story with gretchen carlson. her time slot, at 2:00 eastern time. big doings this afternoon.

martha: i'm willing to share my work husband for one hour but can't have my real husband. that is where i draw the line. bill: point taken. martha: she kind of likes him too. bill: two hours of hemmer is enough. see you 1:00, and 2:00. jenna: look forward to that. we have brand new stories and breaking news. jon: the clock is talking down to an increasingly likely shut down of the federal post, the first since 1196 with two side -- 1996 with two sides very far apart and nobody blinking. bret baier with the play-by-play on what we can expect over the next two crucial hours. deadly violence over the border in mexico as drug cartels battle each other for control. stunning home surveillance video. a homeowner asleep when three masked men burst in and attack him. it is all "happening now."